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And this morning we're looking at the fallout from this leaked intelligence document about Russian hacking right before the U. Yeah, this story starts with a contractor for the National Security Agency. Reality Leigh Winner is And according to federal authorities, she printed a classified document and sent it to an online news outlet. The contractor is under arrest. The document seems to be what The Intercept published this week.
It describes Russian military intelligence trying to hack a company that provides voting software before the presidential election. Russians, it said, also tried to steal information such as passwords from U. Although, it is unclear to what extent they succeeded. Now, this Russian activity was generally known but not in such detail.
He s us now in the studio. Hi, Ryan. So what can you tell us about this NSA document? What does it reveal that we didn't know before? But more importantly, you know, President Obama came out after the election and said that he sat down with Vladimir Putin face to face and told him, you know, we've detected some type of tampering with our election infrastructure over the summer, and I need you to, quote, "cut it out. GRIM: And as far as President Obama understood or said that he understood at the time, he actually had, in fact, cut it out. What this document shows is that, no, they ramped it up.
In August is when they first went after a software company called VR Systems. VR Systems, it works with a lot of states around the country doing their registration rolls. What they were able to do there was to - they spear phishing VR Systems in order to kind of be able to spoof further s when they reached out later to election officials.
So it looked like they're coming from the contractor. GRIM: Yeah, you out and say - this is usually somebody from Google - you know, you need more storage, or somebody is trying to hack you. And so they try to get you to type in your password. And they were successful in doing that to VR Systems. MARTIN: This is interesting because for many, many months now, we've been hearing the conclusion that the Russians may have hacked the election, tried to interfere. But it was totally unclear whether that had any effect. And what you're saying is that we still don't know If there was any actual effect of this.
But it seems closer. They were closer to Nsa Little Rock side play time systems that could have changed an election. GRIM: Right. It is still very much unclear. But right, we do know that they used the information they were able to gather from VR Systems in order to create s that they then sent to aboutaccording to the NSA, election board officials, trying to get into their systems as well, which the NSA concluded it was very likely that they succeeded in doing that.
They don't know how successful they were beyond that, unless their aim was to create confusion, in which case, they were - they were entirely successful. This was more, it seems, than just Russian propaganda efforts about which we've heard a lot. It seems to have been at least an effort to get at the integrity of the voting systems themselves.
Ryan, thanks so much for coming in this morning. Senator Mark Warner of Nsa Little Rock side play time Senate intelligence committee wants to know if the President pressured Comey to drop his investigation. Hey, Ron. ELVING: It could make that kind of a conversational shift if the people doing the leaking can be made to seem self-serving in some way, if they prove to be unsympathetic individuals.
On the other hand, the existence of real people, now, leaking real documents that describe actual events that cannot be denied means this is a real story. You can't call it fake news. That's coming up this week. So there's going to be a lot of attention on the Russia allegations this week.
Cyber Command, and from the director of national intelligence, former Senator Dan Coats. That's going to be interesting, too, before we even get to Comey. He was weighing in on his travel ban. This happened after the London terrorist attacks. He saw it as an opportunity, I guess, to talk about his travel plan. Is that helping or hurting his case, a case that's now headed to the U. Supreme Court, it appears? After all, the travel ban is in the courts, as you say, including the Supreme Court. It does not make sense to be denigrating those same courts, as he has in some of these tweets, calling them slow and political when these courts are weighing the fate of the travel ban.
And by the way, calling it a travel ban in the tweets totally undercuts all of the president's various surrogates who have been out there at great pains trying to say it's not a travel ban. I don't care what anyone else calls it; It's a travel ban. Does that play well to a base that says, yeah, this is a guy who's just telling it like it is? He's not playing the Washington game. And you really have the essence of this entire Twitter campaign, one believes, at this point. Some of these tweets may be hurting the president in many ways. But they are catnip to his most loyal supporters.
They want to hear this kind of rhetoric. They want to hear these sentiments. This is straight talk to them. And in that sense, it's quite similar to some of the rhetoric we heard in the Paris climate speech that the president gave last week. They're just tweets. Why are you paying so much attention? It suggests that they themselves know how very, very damaging many of these messages are. Hey, thanks so much for being with us this morning, Ron. Sadiq Khan is repeating his call for Britain to cancel the president's state visit.
The president lifted the mayor's words out of context as Sadiq Khan was urging calm after the weekend attack at London Bridge. She is in London this morning. Hey, Eleanor. Or is this this kind of a symbolic move for London's mayor, who may be feeling like he's been under - under attack? I don't know yet if it could actually be revoked. We'll see. How is this likely - if at all - to play into Theresa May's effort to keep her hold on government? It's all about Donald Trump. And people are furious at him. And then when Trump doubled down yesterday on his tweet, calling Sadiq Khan pathetic, that was just, you know, even worse.
Londoners like their mayor. And at the vigil last night, where everyone was out, you know, paying, you know, homage to the victims, this is what London architect Nik Randall ph said to me. He would not have said what he said about Sadiq Khan's comments if he had been white, if it had been Boris Johnson still in power. That was an anti-Muslim comment. Donald Trump is trying to drive the same division that the extremists are trying to drive. What have British police been saying about the the attackers who killed those seven people Saturday? Well, yesterday they released the name of - names of two of the three attackers.
And they've also let go 12 of the people they were holding. And there are raids going on this morning in the neighborhood of year-old Brit - Pakistani-born Brit named Khuram Shahzad Butt. He was known to police. And he was so open about his fundamentalism that he actually appeared in a TV documentary last year called "The Jihadis Next Door.
Hey, Eleanor, thanks for doing it. She said it's all about Trump, which means the president actually is getting what his communication strategy tends to go for. View the discussion thread.Nsa Little Rock side play time
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Morning News Brief: Fallout From Leaked NSA Document